Core Team
You’re in safe hands. Both Matter is made up of a team of experts who are driven by helping parents separate co-operatively.

James Linder
Founder
Entrepreneur, crusader, father. James is the founder of Both Matter and an expert in the stufy of how incentives affect human behavior.

Lisa Rothfus
LCSW, Mediator, Divorce Coach
Lisa has spent nearly 30 years helping families through marriage crises, separation, divorce, parenting issues and more.

Wayne Linder
Experimental Psychologist, Retired
Wayne, or as James calls him, ‘Dad’ is a former Quantitative and Experimental Psychologist, Psychology Professor and Social Worker.

Mabel Linder
Child & School Psychologist, Retired
Mabel, or as James calls her, ‘Mom’ is a former Experimental Child Psychologist, School Psychologist, Rogerian Therapist and Social Worker.
Advisory Panel
A debt of gratitude is owed to our brilliant advisors too.

Eric Rothfus
Venture Capitalist, Entrepreneur and Technologist

Alen Durbuzovic
Chief Technology Officer of Resignation Media

Jerrod Crook
Senior Software Engineer

Robert Nelke
C.P.A.